what can and can't i do with webinator?

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what can and can't i do with webinator?

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greetings all.

i've just installed webinator and i've played around with it a bit.

i'm just wondering what i can and can't do in regards to modifing the
search script. are we allowed to modify it as we need (like adding in our
headers and footers while keeping the thunderstone images)? to tell you
the truth, i've already done this but the copyright image appears after my
footer - so it looks like the whole page is copyright thunderstone, rather
than just the search engine. is there any way to move it?

i've also got a minor problem with its results .. all of the pages on our
site are ssi'd with a standard header and footer (which is why i used
webinator). however this means that every page in the site has the same
<title> :( so when webinator returns its search results, every hit looks
identical, except for the url of the link that the title points to. what i
was thinking of doing, as our directory structure directly reflects our
html structure, is build the title of the search result from the url, or
simpler yet, just replace the title of the document with the url. i guess
this is kinda tied in with my first question .. am i allowed to do this?
if so .. how?

many thanks.


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You may do anything you wish to the script code, but removing or
obscuring the copyright message may result in license revocation.
The reason the program is free is because it lets people sample
our technology while providing us with market visibility.

The .gif rather clearly states that Texis / Webinator is Thunderstone's
and not your content. A basic license to Texis is around $10K USD, and
does not display that gif. If you feel strongly about it you might
consider this option.


Indexed documents should probably have titles we have a similar problem
with Adobe PDF files, they don't have titles either. Yes, you may modify
the database and or the code to suit your needs, that is the whole intent
behind our providing access to the Texis scripting language.

There are a couple ways to go about what your are trying to do, the
easiest is to change the script to display the URL instead of the
title field. This operation would take about 1 minute.

Have a look at the Texis Web Script manual and read up on Texis' SQL.
It should be pretty easy to accomplish what you've described.

Thunderstone




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many thanks for your reply.

:> i'm just wondering what i can and can't do in regards to modifing the
:> search script. are we allowed to modify it as we need (like adding in our
:> headers and footers while keeping the Thunderstone images)? to tell you
:> the truth, i've already done this but the copyright image appears after my
:> footer - so it looks like the whole page is copyright thunderstone, rather
:> than just the search engine. is there any way to move it?
:
:You may do anything you wish to the script code, but removing or
:obscuring the copyright message may result in license revocation.
:The reason the program is free is because it lets people sample
:our technology while providing us with market visibility.

great :) <rubs hands together with glee>

:The .gif rather clearly states that Texis / Webinator is Thunderstone's
:and not your content. A basic license to Texis is around $10K USD, and
:does not display that gif. If you feel strongly about it you might
:consider this option.

i don't want to remove the copyright image, just move it. our pages have a
standard header and footer, and currently the copyright image appears after
the footer. some browsers might not show it because it's after a </html>
tag. i'd like to move it so that it's before the start of the footer.

i suspect it can't be done, as from what i can tell it's added by the texis
program.

:> i've also got a minor problem with its results .. all of the pages on our
:> site are ssi'd with a standard header and footer (which is why i used
:> Webinator). however this means that every page in the site has the same
:> <title> :( so when Webinator returns its search results, every hit looks
:> identical, except for the url of the link that the title points to. what i
:> was thinking of doing, as our directory structure directly reflects our
:> html structure, is build the title of the search result from the url, or
:> simpler yet, just replace the title of the document with the url. i guess
:> this is kinda tied in with my first question .. am i allowed to do this?
:> if so .. how?
:
:Indexed documents should probably have titles we have a similar problem
:with Adobe PDF files, they don't have titles either. Yes, you may modify
:the database and or the code to suit your needs, that is the whole intent
:behind our providing access to the Texis scripting language.
:
:There are a couple ways to go about what your are trying to do, the
:easiest is to change the script to display the URL instead of the
:title field. This operation would take about 1 minute.
:
:Have a look at the Texis Web Script manual and read up on Texis' SQL.
:It should be pretty easy to accomplish what you've described.

the more i look at texis web script, the more impressed i am with it.
you're right - it took me about 1 minute to fix this :)

.

uhh.. i thought my email was going to a mailing list .. does the list
still work?


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It's always added at the bottom of the document. There's no way to move it.


Yes. This is the list.


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